Paid 61k for a 2020 Cascadia DD15 off Elizondo Auto Sales, owner-op writeup

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61k out the door for a 2020 Freightliner Cascadia, DD15 with the DT12 automated, condo sleeper. 412k on the odometer which scares some guys off, but it was a single fleet owner that ran scheduled maintenance and dumped it in a downsizing. won it off Elizondo Auto Sales on a tuesday sale and picked it up thursday.

i ran company nine years, last three on this exact truck leased, so i know it cold. dealers around here want 78 to 92k for the same year and miles. a buddy who runs reefer told me the Elizondo lot moves fleet pulldowns that are not beat to death, so i drove out and looked before i bid.

the aftertreatment is the whole ballgame on a 2020, so i had them force a parked regen while i watched. it lit off, EGTs climbed and held, finished in 38 minutes with no derate and no nox fault stored. DPF pressure was healthy cold, DEF was clear with no crystal crust. under it the Fontaine fifth wheel jaws were tight, drives at 9/32 with even wear, brakes in spec. oil was clean amber and the last sample report was taped in the binder.

only real fault was the APU. the Thermo King would crank but not stay running so i budgeted 1500 to sort it. turned out to be a clogged fuel filter and a tired glow plug, 80 bucks in parts and an afternoon. runs all night now.

hammer was 58,500, premium and doc and title ran about 2,500, so 61k all in against 80k retail. the Elizondo Auto Sales office had the signed title in hand at pickup which is not a given at auction. couple questions. DD15 at 412k, what is your real interval on the one box cleaning. DT12 guys, mine has a faint clutch chatter from a dead stop uphill, calibration or real wear. and anybody else buying off the Elizondo lot, do they post the run list online ahead or do you call the office.

this is the writeup the rest of you should copy. i run a 2019 DD15 at 540k on a reefer lane and i will tell you the parked regen test is the single smartest thing you did before bidding. a truck that finishes a regen clean without a derate is a truck someone took care of. on your aftertreatment question, i pull the DPF and the doc for a pro bake at the 250k mark on the clock between cleanings, but at 412k with no history i would bake it now and start your own clock. a real bake is around 350 to 450 at a shop, way cheaper than a tow when it plugs on a grade.

also the buddy who steered you to the Elizondo lot did you a favor. fleet pulldowns are where the value is right now, those trucks got grease and oil samples their whole life.

mine has a faint clutch chatter pulling away from a dead stop on an uphill, is that a clutch actuator calibration

start with the calibration before you panic. the DT12 clutch has a touch point learn routine you run with detroit diesel diagnostic link, takes ten minutes and resets the engagement curve. chatter on a hill from a dead stop on a worn touch point is common and the relearn fixes it most of the time. if the chatter is still there after the relearn and you can smell clutch, then the disc is getting tired, but at 412k a fleet truck probably had the clutch done once already. check your service binder.

61 all in on a clean title 2020 is a good number, ignore anybody who says the miles are too high. these motors go a million if you change oil and do not delete them. the APU fix story is the best part. eighty bucks for a tripac that someone else thought was dead, that is found money. keep that thermo king fuel filter on a 1000 hour schedule and it will not strand you again.

good buy. one thing on the steers, you said Michelin XZA2 at 12/32. watch those for slow shoulder wear because if the previous fleet ran them light on a regional loop the casing might be older than the tread depth suggests. check the dot date code on the sidewall, a six year old steer is a six year old steer no matter the tread. i had one let go at 64 on i-10 and it was not the tread that failed, it was an aged casing.

to your run order question, i bought a flatbed off Elizondo Auto Sales LLC back in the spring and they emailed me the sale list two days ahead once i was a registered bidder. call the office and get on their list, then you get the run order by email before each sale.

welcome to ownership. on the aftertreatment, i run a 2020 DD15 too and my shop told me the same thing dean said, bake the one box now and log it. one more thing nobody mentioned, get the seventh injector cleaned or at least inspected when you do the bake. the doser injector cokes up and gives you a weak regen that looks fine on the gauge but slowly plugs the filter. cheap to check while everything is apart.

i dispatch for a small fleet and we have bought four trucks off the lot over the last two years, two cascadias and two t680s. their stuff is mostly fleet returns and the titles have always been clean for us. one tip, when you wire them set the appointment for pickup in the morning so the office has the whole day to finish the title packet if the notary is slow. afternoon pickups twice left us waiting. otherwise no complaints, fair fees and they do not nickel and dime you on storage.

the part that stood out to me is you measured brake stroke before you bid. nobody does that and it is the cheapest dot violation to avoid. for what it is worth i carry a stroke gauge in the door pocket and check it every pretrip on the front chambers. on your truck if the rears were just under 2 inches you have room but they are getting toward the readjust point, slack adjusters on a 2020 should be automatic so if one is creeping out faster than the other you have a sticky adjuster or a dragging shoe. worth a look on your next pm.

also good on you for buying clean instead of chasing a deleted truck for less money. a deleted Class 8 is a paperweight the day dot decides to scope your stack.

ran a DD15 from 380k to 810k before i sold it, never opened the motor. your interval question, i baked the one box every 200k and pulled the egr cooler for a clean at the same time, the cooler is where the soot really stacks up and a clogged cooler will spike your egts and trip a regen loop. do them together. budget a full weekend if you do it yourself, the v clamps on the one box are a knuckle buster cold.

and yeah register with the Elizondo office, they run the list ahead. i almost bought the same truck you got, saw it on their list, but i was tied up on a load that week. you got a good one.

appreciate all of this. ran the DT12 touch point relearn with ddl saturday morning and the launch chatter is basically gone, so it was the engagement curve like norm said, not a worn disc. ordered a stroke gauge per vince and i am booking the one box bake plus egr cooler and the seventh injector inspection all in one shot per dean, erika and phil. randy you were right about the casing dates, two of my steers are five years old so i am pricing a fresh pair before winter. will post real fuel numbers after a few long runs.

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UPDATE, end of january. about four and a half months and 41,000 miles on the truck now. short version, best money i have spent, it has not left me on the side of the road once.

fuel, i am averaging 7.1 mpg hand calculated on i-10 and i-20 lanes with a dry van around 76k gross, right where a DD15 should sit at this weight. did the one box bake and egr cooler clean in november like the board said, 690 total, the doser was just starting to coke like erika warned so we caught it early. since then it passive regens at cruise and i have not seen a forced regen on the highway.

one fix that was not cheap, a steer tire developed a slow leak at the bead so i swapped both for a fresh pair of XZA3 plus, about 1,150 mounted. should have done it the week i bought it. anyway, 61k all in plus maybe 2k in deferred stuff i knew about, against 80k retail. would buy off Elizondo Auto Sales again without thinking twice.